Excellent message! Good and sound gospel principles, grammar and logic. God bless you. Many of us out here very much appreciate your hard and sacrificial work. No greater love hath man than that he lay down his own life for another. In a very toxic, corrupt world, Sky, you are doing exactly that. You are taking the heat for the hundreds, even thousands who dare not, can’t, or won’t yet speak up for truth and light. Your self-sacrifice does not go unnoticed and will one day, if it hasn’t already, strengthen many others to walk toward the true Light.
Prayers are being offered for you, to be strengthened, continued to be enlightened and be supported as you engage in this very urgently needed work you are doing. Thank you for doing so.
I always appreciate your thoughts. I am often appalled by the attacks from those who claim to love everyone as their authentic selves. I always think of a reel I saw from a prominent ex Mormon LGBTQ “leader” who said “I respect others opinions unless they are wrong.” I was telling my husband the other day that I feel like we’ve gotten to the point where you can’t even say anything like “the sky is blue” without someone accusing you of something horrible. I am glad you stood up against the deznat movement and I’m glad it’s lost some of its popularity. I was often very bothered by that as well. We all need to hold ourselves to a higher standard. As the Savior taught, we will be judged by the judgement we give others. I am not perfect and I try to respect those who have other opinions - and I am trying to follow President Nelson’s advice to be a peace maker - but I admit it can be hard to say anything (even kindly) out of fear of the backlash from those who don’t extend the same courtesy. As always, keep sharing what you are. Thanks for your thoughts.
Thanks for reading! I couldn’t agree more. It’s hard to find the balance of gracefully standing up for truth while others are shouting you down as horrible and bigoted, but that’s the call of discipleship.
I was also thinking, many in this community likely say that the church doesn’t allow any questioning (which I disagree with), yet they do not allow any questioning of their beliefs or conclusions. They accuse church members of gaslighting, when often, they are the worse offenders.
Thanks Sky. I stand with you! My impression was that a lot of people truly aren’t as at peace as they claim. And I fully admit that I’m probably getting a very different picture of things that many in the LGBT “community.” I feel like I’m the “rebel” or “resistance” and the Pride movement is like…the new norm. 🤷♂️
In your post that elicited such a surprising response, you said that your belief that “the church is the safest place” stems from your belief in the basic tenets of the gospel of Jesus Christ and His church. I think a basic distinction in some of the arguments I’m seeing is that others do not have the same beliefs. If A is not true to them, it is natural that B does not follow. What I hear you saying is that it is as simple as you testifying your belief that A is true. All things that follow rest on that and perhaps that’s where the crux of the discussion could be or could leave off, in an honest, civil, and kind discussion. For the record, I do agree with you. I would hope that if I didn’t, I would “fight fair” with some basic rules like staying on topic, refraining from ridicule and name calling, avoiding broader assumptions, and seeking for understanding (which is not actually fighting at all, I just think the idea of having rules around discussion even when passions are high is a helpful one—thus the expression). I appreciate you sharing your voice on your experiences and thoughts around these issues. It is really needed.
I appreciate that you're trying to be a peacemaker here, and I feel for you, experiencing ostracization from multiple camps. I too know the struggles (and beauties) of being in a mixed-orientation and mixed-faith marriage. But your messaging comes off as very dismissive of the very real hurt that ppl are experiencing in the church -- yes, even BECAUSE of the church. The path you have taken in the LDS/LGBTQ space deserves respect. But you need to acknowledge in your tweets and podcasts that your path isn't the right path for everyone. And p.s. -- labelling a slice of your community as an "impassioned mob", a "radical cohort", and an "untamed, flailing creature" doesn't enlarge the stakes of Zion like you think it does. Minimizing the pain of your sisters and brothers makes Zion smaller.
Thanks for reading, Brandon. I agree that the genuine critiques aren’t necessarily coming from hate. I was careful to make a distinction between that group and the specific, radical offshoot of that group who are wishing harm on me and my family because of what I posted. I think it’s fair and even important to recognize and call out the radical side of every movement, so we can hold them accountable. I’m willing to call out the radicals on my side. I don’t think it’s hateful to expect the same of the LGBTQ community. I think you’d be surprised how nasty people in the specific group I mentioned can be. I don’t think it’s helpful to ignore or excuse their behavior
Excellent message! Good and sound gospel principles, grammar and logic. God bless you. Many of us out here very much appreciate your hard and sacrificial work. No greater love hath man than that he lay down his own life for another. In a very toxic, corrupt world, Sky, you are doing exactly that. You are taking the heat for the hundreds, even thousands who dare not, can’t, or won’t yet speak up for truth and light. Your self-sacrifice does not go unnoticed and will one day, if it hasn’t already, strengthen many others to walk toward the true Light.
Prayers are being offered for you, to be strengthened, continued to be enlightened and be supported as you engage in this very urgently needed work you are doing. Thank you for doing so.
I always appreciate your thoughts. I am often appalled by the attacks from those who claim to love everyone as their authentic selves. I always think of a reel I saw from a prominent ex Mormon LGBTQ “leader” who said “I respect others opinions unless they are wrong.” I was telling my husband the other day that I feel like we’ve gotten to the point where you can’t even say anything like “the sky is blue” without someone accusing you of something horrible. I am glad you stood up against the deznat movement and I’m glad it’s lost some of its popularity. I was often very bothered by that as well. We all need to hold ourselves to a higher standard. As the Savior taught, we will be judged by the judgement we give others. I am not perfect and I try to respect those who have other opinions - and I am trying to follow President Nelson’s advice to be a peace maker - but I admit it can be hard to say anything (even kindly) out of fear of the backlash from those who don’t extend the same courtesy. As always, keep sharing what you are. Thanks for your thoughts.
Thanks for reading! I couldn’t agree more. It’s hard to find the balance of gracefully standing up for truth while others are shouting you down as horrible and bigoted, but that’s the call of discipleship.
I was also thinking, many in this community likely say that the church doesn’t allow any questioning (which I disagree with), yet they do not allow any questioning of their beliefs or conclusions. They accuse church members of gaslighting, when often, they are the worse offenders.
Thanks Sky. I stand with you! My impression was that a lot of people truly aren’t as at peace as they claim. And I fully admit that I’m probably getting a very different picture of things that many in the LGBT “community.” I feel like I’m the “rebel” or “resistance” and the Pride movement is like…the new norm. 🤷♂️
In your post that elicited such a surprising response, you said that your belief that “the church is the safest place” stems from your belief in the basic tenets of the gospel of Jesus Christ and His church. I think a basic distinction in some of the arguments I’m seeing is that others do not have the same beliefs. If A is not true to them, it is natural that B does not follow. What I hear you saying is that it is as simple as you testifying your belief that A is true. All things that follow rest on that and perhaps that’s where the crux of the discussion could be or could leave off, in an honest, civil, and kind discussion. For the record, I do agree with you. I would hope that if I didn’t, I would “fight fair” with some basic rules like staying on topic, refraining from ridicule and name calling, avoiding broader assumptions, and seeking for understanding (which is not actually fighting at all, I just think the idea of having rules around discussion even when passions are high is a helpful one—thus the expression). I appreciate you sharing your voice on your experiences and thoughts around these issues. It is really needed.
Bless You. The Church needs more like you.
I appreciate that you're trying to be a peacemaker here, and I feel for you, experiencing ostracization from multiple camps. I too know the struggles (and beauties) of being in a mixed-orientation and mixed-faith marriage. But your messaging comes off as very dismissive of the very real hurt that ppl are experiencing in the church -- yes, even BECAUSE of the church. The path you have taken in the LDS/LGBTQ space deserves respect. But you need to acknowledge in your tweets and podcasts that your path isn't the right path for everyone. And p.s. -- labelling a slice of your community as an "impassioned mob", a "radical cohort", and an "untamed, flailing creature" doesn't enlarge the stakes of Zion like you think it does. Minimizing the pain of your sisters and brothers makes Zion smaller.
Thanks for reading, Brandon. I agree that the genuine critiques aren’t necessarily coming from hate. I was careful to make a distinction between that group and the specific, radical offshoot of that group who are wishing harm on me and my family because of what I posted. I think it’s fair and even important to recognize and call out the radical side of every movement, so we can hold them accountable. I’m willing to call out the radicals on my side. I don’t think it’s hateful to expect the same of the LGBTQ community. I think you’d be surprised how nasty people in the specific group I mentioned can be. I don’t think it’s helpful to ignore or excuse their behavior